... both know time is ticking away on their Newcastle United careers.
Haris Vuckic
What has gone wrong?
Well, you will have to ask them both.
And your chance could be tonighht, as both are set to face Team Northumbria having experienced Newcastle's European campaign in the Europa Cup a couple of seasons ago.
Vuckic has had several loan spells and Rotherham came very close to signing him, but Bigirimana went to Yeovil last month and they sent him back!
The Newcastle United pair are in line to start for the Under-21s in tonight’s Northumberland Senior Cup tie at Whitley Park (7.30pm kick-off).
Admission to the quarter-final tie will be £4 for adults and £2 for concessions.